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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:53 pm    Post subject: Completed NS/Bullet2/Bullet5/Pico2/Pico2HP/Bullet2HP Working Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good job! can't wait to be able to help test and use in some of our solutions!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is there manual how to flash of that HW somewhere?

I am planing to buy PS ...
so I can test the soft
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:02 am    Post subject: Todays NS/Bullet2/Bullet5/Pico2/Pico2HP/Bullet2HP Images Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it would be better to have a single repository for all the ROBIN and its forked versions. And maybe just a couple of topics 'cos you're spreading your announcements all over the section and users wont post w/ a logic and clean organization of the messages.
....just my opinion Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Antonio's suggestion. Also, I'm interested in looking at the code which dingo is posting, since I'm quite curious about his implementation of QoS.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The suspense in here is Killing me......anything new?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:56 pm    Post subject: 3.3 MB ROBINized version with GUI coming soon...! Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:41 pm    Post subject: questions Reply with quote

I've two questions:
-is this version stable?
-is an official version or unofficial?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stable enough to run live in a production network, yes. This is currently a "prototype" refactored modified ROBIN build, Based on research on ROBIN and on my "inernal" inhouse working version. Ive been working to make this a full ROBINized version, So Id say yes once its fully ready, Im sure itll be available.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dingo, this is very positive news. I just want to let you know that I really appreciate your efforts.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great dingo!!! Thank you for all your effort in this project Smile
The firmware have QoS, it means that I can use voip over the network without problems?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

I am very new to this forum so I apologise if I express something wrong.

I have a bullet 5 and try to flash it with OpenWRT.

All the firmwares under
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named after ubiquity Bullet 5, are marked as bad firware when I try to flash them to bullet 5 (either via the reset button method, or via the web interface).


Is this the correct url to download the bullet5 openwrt firmwares you refer to in this forum or not?

Thank you all for your Time.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ummm

"OpenWRT" is different to "ROBIN"

You will get better support for OpenWRT from here:

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok Clear

Thank you for your answer.

Then were do I download ROBIN from?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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named after ubiquity Bullet 5, are marked as bad firware when I try to flash them to bullet 5 (either via the reset button method, or via the web interface).


No current ROBIN version exists for the bullet.

The problem is the 4 meg flash limit with the bullet.

Having said that............. custom hacks exist

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There is a new version of ROBIN that is about to be released which hopefully will work

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edited


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm happy to inform that ROBIN_test-r2xxx is finally in pre-release:

-rw-r--r-- 1 ansanto ansanto 3276800 5 apr 10:57 openwrt-atheros-root.jffs2-64k
-rw-r--r-- 1 ansanto ansanto 2818456 5 apr 10:57 openwrt-atheros-ubnt2-squashfs.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 ansanto ansanto 2818456 5 apr 10:57 openwrt-atheros-ubnt5-squashfs.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 ansanto ansanto 720896 5 apr 10:57 openwrt-atheros-vmlinux.lzma


main features:
- ath_hal-20081002
- coova-chilli 1.0.13
- olsrd_0.5.6-r4
- restore factory defaults via reset button, support to zero-lenght replies, ability to set the upgrade window and checkin frequency, minimized layer2 broadcast inside the mesh backbone, MAC address filtering and strict-mesh, NS2/NS5 antenna settings compatibility, ...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:46 am    Post subject: Violation of Nightwing's GPL License Reply with quote

The LUGRo-Mesh Team wishes to express its discontent with the views expressed at various sites by Mr. Scott Kamp (A.K.A. OutBackDingo or Dingo) and to repudiate the violation of the GPLv3 license of the Nightwing firmware [1] through a communique that we provide here and in other sites of the web.

Such communique is available both in Spanish [2] as in English [3].

We thank you very much.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dingo wrote:
Actually my work is not a direct derivitive of yours, the only piece of work from
Nightwing WAS the startup script that was modified


That is not true, in the image that we got there are other files that belong to Nightwing. For example it has /etc/config/bmx_mode, /etc/hotplug.d/iface/20-nw_change, /sbin/nw_conf and of course /etc/init.d/Orion.

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and I never stated the source
code would not be released., The images are not even released publically.nor are
they released for general consumption. I did initially include your init script
while doing research. It is no longer a part of the images for ORION.


You pass it to several people. That is enought for you to respect the GPLv3 license.

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And as this is a work in progress, and ongoing research,
things change daily. The image you currently have is in fact old and not the
one being released under ORION.


That is not true. The image that we received is not old, is from this month (April, 2009).
And it's not from 8-9 months (as you say in our mailing list). You have included nw_conf, wich was first released in February of 2009 (http://trac2.assembla.com/nightwing/changeset/19), that is almost 2 (TWO) MONTHS AGO not 8 or 9.

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As a matter of fact, Ill happily post the old
original version on my web site and allow for its use. However I am not obligated
to release anything publically. And the image you recieved was/is not available
for public download or general consumption.


For how long have you said the same thing? Just post them.

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So you might want to change the
context of your message to the public, or I will no longer be willing to assist either
the projects Nightwing, or ROBIN, of which at the moment I no longer do.


What contribution have you done to Nightwing, besides what was acknowledged? You assisting US?

For ROBIn, I can't speak.

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Im sure i can find the email where I told you I had even migrated away from batman to bmxd, which you follwed with after. And there are quite other means to address these issues then in a public location. A simple email to notify me of the missing text would have sufficed. And I never stated I wasnt going to release my code, or the sources, that were utilized.


Your attitude and the way you proceded by publicly denying the fact that you used Nightwing's code, and after we check that you didn't respect the GPLv3 license of our firmware (and the thing that happened with the documentation) was enought.

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When I started my research, you were only one of many locations, amongst the community, WIrelessAfrica, NiNux, Robin, Lugro, Freifunk. and at the time even your source code was not available online.


Our first release was in April, 2008. You contacted us in August of 2008.

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Gustavo had to literally email me a copy of your working tree.


You are mixing the facts an the timeline.
What was emailed to you was a copy of an image of Nightwing with batman-0.3 r1105 (http://www.lugro.org.ar/pipermail/nightwing/2008-September/000047.html). This was after you contacted us (August, 2008), so sense months there already was available an image and the source code.

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So, same as you, I am still in the development phase. Also note it is actions like this that you have taken that both undermine and undermine my contributions to OpenSource. By not only twisting the truths to your benefit and making public statements that are slanderous. I have not violated the GPL. same as you had not even though sources you derived from ROBIN were not publically available until after your initial release of Nightwing, Also note, it was me who provided to you the fact that almost 1 years ago, i had already migrated away from batman to bmx, and if you were paying attention neither, batman, nor bmxd, are even in my firmware that you had received.


I think you didn't read

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Antonio made alot of headway, as you forked his work, well understand this, you used his code in much the same way your are complaining about me using yours.


No, we sense the first release respect his copyright.

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I find it quite amusing your statement, yet what I dont find amusing is the harshness and the overall tone and insinuations that you have made. My initial work, which you recieved via private email included works from both ROBIN, and Lugro, and potentially other places.


The image was compiled by you in this moth (April, 2009).

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All I have ever tried to do is assist/help others in this industry, and this is the thanks I get
This is quite rediculous that you prevent and deny the furthering of technology this way.


We don't prevent anything. We just want to see the copyrights respected.

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By the Way, ORION no longer uses your initscript, it did a long time ago. and It soon will no longer use ROBINs scripts, as we have rewriiten/rewriting everything. Of which we might be willing to release as open-source,
Fri Jun 27 14:48:51 2008 +0300 (9 months ago)
changeset 3 78bab27d3a19
parent 2 1a3a26d5c373
child 4 4ef2385dd6b9
1.21 +int ac_element_dispatcher(scew_element* element, ac_config_t *ac) {
1.22 + scew_element* child = NULL;
1.23 +
1.24 + if (element == NULL)
1.25 + return 1;
1.26 +
1.27 + while ((child = scew_element_next(element, child)) != NULL) {
1.28 + if (strncmp(scew_element_name(child), "system", sizeof("system")) == 0) {
1.29 + ac_system_parser(child, &(ac->si));
1.30 + continue;
1.31 + }
1.32 + if (strncmp(scew_element_name(child), "lan", sizeof("lan")) == 0) {
1.33 + continue;
1.34 + }
1.35 + if (strncmp(scew_element_name(child), "wan", sizeof("wan")) == 0) {
1.36 + continue;
1.37 + }
1.38 + if (strncmp(scew_element_name(child), "wireless", sizeof("wireless")) == 0) {
1.39 + continue;
1.40 + }
1.41 + if (strncmp(scew_element_name(child), "mac_filter", sizeof("mac_filter")) == 0) {
1.42 + continue;
1.43 + }
1.44 + if (strncmp(scew_element_name(child), "hosts", sizeof("hosts")) == 0) {
1.45 + continue;
1.46 + }
1.47 + if (strncmp(scew_element_name(child), "dhcp_hosts", sizeof("dhcp_hosts")) == 0) {
1.48 + continue;
1.49 + }
1.50 + }
return 0;


Without proves, word are just word

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Does the GPL require that source code of modified versions be posted to the public?

The GPL does not require you to release your modified version, or any part of it. You are free to make modifications and use them privately, without ever releasing them. This applies to organizations (including companies), too; an organization can make a modified version and use it internally without ever releasing it outside the organization.

But if you release the modified version to the public in some way, the GPL requires you to make the modified source code available to the program's users, under the GPL.

Thus, the GPL gives permission to release the modified program in certain ways, and not in other ways; but the decision of whether to release it is up to you.


You have conveyed. That is enought.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bconverse is correct, this was supposed to be about helping the users.

everyone looses. I will not be helping or releasing any works, or continuing any futher code, methods, ideas, technologies to any parties involved in the mess. Its quite rediculous to see how hostile and negative this can all get, when one tries to assist or help. Im done with this whole mess. good luck to you all. I have no desire to remain any part of this mess.

Yes, I did have plans to release the works and contribute back to the community, It has become obvious people really have larger agendas then delivering technology to the community. What was to be released and offered in help is no longer available. The images I had were never made and will never be publically available for downlload. So it is finally deadware. good luck to all of you wanting to put networks online.


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such a sad day for users overall
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dingo wrote:
bconverse is correct, this was supposed to be about helping the users.

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such a sad day for users overall


Do you realize that you just put available some code where in
/etc/init.d/Orion it says:
# Copyright (C) 2008 - 2009: Martin A. Campff, Sebastián D. Criado,
Gustavo Lindberg,
# Julio C. Puigpinos
# Contact list:

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# Version 0.6-beta3

We release this versión at 03-20-2009

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And you keep saying that this is 8 MONTHS OLD.
Come on! At least learn to lie Very Happy

You a nothing but a charlatan and a lyer.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@lugro-mesh-team

While I am in total support of people enforcing the GPL, especially when it is people like Netgear, you also need to give them reasonable chance to share

The GPL is about people taking positive action and being generous by donating their time to work on items that they then make freely available to others. This act is a gift of their time, now if others then use your work as a basis for their own, then great, take that as a compliment. Now to be in the spirit of the GPL that person must also share their work back to the community.

When you were first doing your work, I'm sure you were creating derived works while developing and i'm sure distributing within your LUG during the early stages, now if someone happens to be doing similar in a more public manner, then simply seek assurance that they will be releasing their work, when the time is right, then step back and let them get on with it

This in the end is about them sharing, if you demand that someone shares they are likely to get very defensive and it's very clear from the language that you are now using that tempers are running high

I am not saying either party is right or wrong, but this is a clear example, that if you go in too hard then it can be counter productive for all involved. If you see the coverage list on Dingo's site, it's clear he's not some multi-national company making huge piles of cash from your work. Ok he is running a commercial offering, but not a very large one.

Sadly I think things have gone to far now for this issue to be resolved now, too many bad words have been said. Maybe next time you will be a little less precious about your work and give people the time and space and be patient and maybe you will be rewarded by them being generous with their time and contributing back, you can never demand generosity as that is a contradiction in terms
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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where we detailed what really happened. Also see
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for reference on the GPL license.

We are not dealing with a young or inexperienced person that is naive when it comes to Copyright and licenses. He already had big troubles of this kind, you can check

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where we comment about the MicroBSD fiasco that he (Scott Kamp A.K.A. OutBackDingo or Dingo) was involved on.

It doesn't matter if it is a big company, or someone that pretends to be one, who violates the GPL License. It's still a violation of the GPL.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so you have proven what, that your god like and could search google ?
everyone knows about what happened with MicroBSD, its old news, yes
I admitted there was a problem in that revision of the cvs tree, which we
also fixed. Im not running from anything. I will happily admit people make
mistakes. once found, you fix them. You act like this was all blatent and
intentional, like i would ever want to claim nightwing as mine. You go ahead
and continue misleading the community. No worries, Im not going anywhere
that was what 6+ years ago. get a life dude. There is nothing you can do other
then trash my name, which honestly I could care less. your not doing me any harm.

There was an issue before, it was fixed. We didnt close it down like we were trying to run
Hell if that were the case i would have changed my name or handle a long time ago. Get a life.
Your not changing my world at all. You have no affect on me what so ever. so please explain the
purpose ? Im sure if it was all that bad you would have sued me by now like you threatened to.
So... sue me.... bring it on. your just trying to cause trouble. And quite honestly your making alot of
noise about nothing. You noticed something was wrong I fixed it. It was one file. And i released the
source to the files in question, do the community a favor trash me all you like. The facts are simple.

MicroBSD back then was a public project from the beginning and source was always available
now i ask, why is there only 1 file that shows a copyright violation of the BSD license?? was it on
purpose?? or was it purely an accident, why arent there thousands ??? which when also brought
to our attention the issue was fixed.

So if you really want to compare, your going to have to do better then that. Please, tell the people the whole
trust and not just your one sided view point. ORION, was a private project, with images emailed privately
to 5 people. I never stated it was nightwing, not did I ever state it was ROBIN. and again, its so sad that
the facts remain. 1 modified file, and Ive commited what would appear to be the sale of enemy secrets.

So please bring it on, post anything and everything about me you can find. Please..... Im not going to
apologize to you, I fixed the problem and released the code. you just want to cause trouble, and try to
trash my name, go ahead trash away, ill just put ORION back online and let people use what they desire.
its really people like you that give others a bad name. sure I made a mistake, hell who hasnt in their life.
go ahead capitolize on it, make a bigger ass out of yourself. Have a nice time trashing on me. Your only
twisting the real truths to benefit who or for what purpose? Are you ashamed of your work ?

So SUE me already
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I'm not clear on what you hope to achieve by being credited in that source code? Fame? Fortune? Or principle?

Too much wasted effort on the latter.

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It's not our intention to keep boring or annoying with this subjet in this forum. So, if anyone has questions or wants to discuss about this with us, feel free to contact us through:
lugro-mesh-dev_at_lugro.org.ar


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The respect of the license that our firmware has.


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Respect can only be earn, it can't be demanded

You have lost any hope of earning my respect by being so petty about this issue
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