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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:34 pm    Post subject: how to configure Reply with quote

Hi, I flashed router fon2100a/b/c successfully. Now it keeps on rebooting about every 10 minutes, any idea to solve the problem?

the model which I want to implement is showed below:
C1<---->ROUTER1<------>ROUTER2<------>C2

C1 and C2 stand for computer.
ROUTER1 and ROUTER2 stand for fon2100 router which is an AP.
<------> stands for wireless connection.

How should I configure the routers and computers?
Btw, I want every router has different SSID.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No internet?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Btw, I want every router has different SSID.


open-mesh.com

I suspect you are trying to create a mesh without an internet connection?

ROBIN needs the internet to work (There are work arounds)

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I suspect you are trying to create a mesh without an internet connection?

ROBIN needs the internet to work (There are work arounds)


yes, no internet.

Q1: Why does ROBIN need internet?

Q2: Do I need to edit network in open-mesh.com?

Q3: If ROBIN needs internet, can the model work like below?
C1<----->ROUTER1<------>ROUTER2<------>C2
while ROUTER1 or/and ROUTER2 are connected into Internet with Ethernet cable?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Q1: Why does ROBIN need internet?


because that is the way it was designed

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Q2: Do I need to edit network in open-mesh.com?


yes

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If ROBIN needs internet, can the model work like below?


yes but it requires an internet connection

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To ispyisail:

Thanks very much for your reply.
Now C1 and C2 can ping each other

But I have other problems,I dont' know if no Internet leads two these problems

1.my router reboots about every 10min, how can I solve this problem

2.now DHCP can't run well when I connect my PC to the router with wireless connection,how can I config my route

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1.my router reboots about every 10min, how can I solve this problem


internet connection

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2.now DHCP can't run well when I connect my PC to the router with wireless connection,how can I config my route


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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internet connection


If the router can't connect to Internet, can I solve the reboot problem by configure the router? like running commands?

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2.now DHCP can't run well when I connect my PC to the router with wireless connection,how can I configure my route


I found that DHCP will run on the router when it is connected to Internet. If the router is not connected to Internet, the DHCP will not run on the router, so my PC has to configure the static IP to connect to the router.

I mean, can I configure the router to run DHCP without connect to Internet?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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internet connection


If the router can't connect to Internet, can I solve the reboot problem by configure the router? like running commands?

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2.now DHCP can't run well when I connect my PC to the router with wireless connection,how can I configure my route


I found that DHCP will run on the router when it is connected to Internet. If the router is not connected to Internet, the DHCP will not run on the router, so my PC has to configure the static IP to connect to the router.

I mean, can I configure the router to run DHCP without connect to Internet?

Thanks for your answer Smile


maybe

Its not a simple procedure

Its an advanced topic and you will need SSH command line skills etc etc

I would suggest setting your network with open-mesh.com then then start using "pomade dashboard".

Its not a simple procedure

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there any reason why you need Routing OLSR mesh?
Maybe setting up a manual/lazy WDS mesh would be easier for what you are doing.

Anyways.
1.my router reboots about every 10min, how can I solve this problem?

This is normally controlled by a setting in batman.php on the dashboard if it cannot connect it will turn into a repeater and try again if not it will assume there is an error and reboot. This would require some work to change all the code so it checks for some access on your network and not the internet.

2.now DHCP can't run well when I connect my PC to the router with wireless connection,how can I config my route

This is all likely the same issue. "Cant run well" isn't enough information to help you a whole bunch. The router will be changing the iptables and other settings in an attempt to find a valid rout to the internet (this is the meshing function of ROBIN), sense it cant i would imagine DHCP would be a little goofy. Wink

you know if you need OLSR maybe building Open-WRT with Batman and OLSR would be easier Smile

If supplying internet is not your main function ROBIN simply wasn't designed for you. That doesn't mean its impossible but more like building a house upside down.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just set it up, configure stand alone mode, and set a static ip via the web interface on the gateway (with new robin). You could also The network will run without internet, but if your trying to use coova it's going to have to resolve url's somehow. If you leave it in open mode your good to go. It's simple once you do it once.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just set it up, configure stand alone mode, and set a static ip via the web interface on the gateway (with new robin). You could also The network will run without internet


actually I tried to set static ip and the router worked well except that it rebooted every several minutes without connecting to Internet.
how to configure stand alone mode?

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, but if your trying to use coova it's going to have to resolve url's somehow. If you leave it in open mode your good to go. It's simple once you do it once.


?? I don't understand your meaning...
what is coova?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This would require some work to change all the code so it checks for some access on your network and not the internet.


where can I download the source code of rootfs and kernel files?


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stand alone mode is located in the /etc/config/management file. Most of the info you need is located here,

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Disregard my comments above coova. I really didn't look at your previous posts to see what you were setting up. If you enable stand alone mode it should keep it from rebooting every ten minutes, unless there is a flag that still reboots it with no dashboard present. I can't recall, but try and set a static ip via the web page on at least one node so that it stays as a gateway (requires newer robin) or you could plug in any old dhcp router to atleast one. This will enable it to come up and function, then go in and change the /etc/config/management file to turn on stand alone. Should be good to go after that.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks! I have tried to configure stand alone mode to '1', and when the gw node was disconnected, all nodes kept rebooting again.

so I decide to flash E-mesh to routers this afternoon.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All nodes keep rebooting because they do require atleast one gateway regardless if stand alone mode is on or not. You'll probably find emesh better for your needs, but even then I think one still needs to be acting as a gateway.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You'll probably find emesh better for your needs, but even then I think one still needs to be acting as a gateway.


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bmoffitt said that:
Well, I took a few hours and edited a few files in Robin 2690, then rebuilt it.

The result is a mesh that:

- needs one node to get a DHCP address, but doesn't have to be connected to the internet
- stays up even if the gateway is disconnected from the router (using stay-alive mode)
- does not check into any dashboard (doesn't need the internet, but offers no way to reconfigure the nodes...)
- displays a web page that shows the DHCP leases on each node (handy if you need to reach someone or check an IP camera attached to that node) and the IP addresses of each node on the network (so you can do the same for the other nodes in the mesh.)


so other repeaters could stay up even if the gateway is disconnected from the router.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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- needs one node to get a DHCP address, but doesn't have to be connected to the internet


I don't know how does node get a DHCP address. Is it connected to a DHCP server without Internet?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is it connected to a DHCP server without Internet?


yes


hi, can I configure the static IP for mesh router rather than using a DHCP server to configure the IP for mesh router?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://robin-mesh.wik.is/index.php?title=Documentation/Router_Configuring/Fixed_IP_Address_for_Gateways&highlight=fixed+ip


Fixed IP Address for Gateways
Note: This feature is only avaliable in releases after r3469.

What a pity! The firmware version of fon2100 and dir-300 is r2693, right?
Maybe I have to find other methods.
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thank you, I forgot one important thing, I am not sure whether E-mesh version support fixing IP address for gw node.
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You don't need internet... All you need to do is use anything that provides dhcp. Just carry around a small pocket wired router and simply plug it into the gateway to trick it into staying as a gateway. As long as you have stand alone mode, or in this case the emesh you'll be fine.

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- stays up even if the gateway is disconnected from the router (using stay-alive mode)


I forgot about stay alive mode. He must have edited it in emesh to not shut down olsr and it probably keeps it running as a gateway. Still, you might as well just leave s small dhcp router plugged in, cause I'm sure when it reboots it's going to go into repeater mode if you don't provide dhcp. It wouldn't take to much to add in the ability to set a static ip though, did it here for the 2xxx versions.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You don't need internet... All you need to do is use anything that provides dhcp. Just carry around a small pocket wired router and simply plug it into the gateway to trick it into staying as a gateway. As long as you have stand alone mode, or in this case the emesh you'll be fine.


I see. I wanna to configure IP of gateway without using Internet or other routers...just by itself.
sorry, the demand is a bit acerbic...
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It wouldn't take to much to add in the ability to set a static ip though, did it here for the 2xxx versions.

how to add the ability?
my version is 3625.
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Would have to look at my notes after the holiday, but if your version is what you mention above then you should already have that option on the local webgui. Are you wanting to put it into an older version or emesh?
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Would have to look at my notes after the holiday, but if your version is what you mention above then you should already have that option on the local webgui. Are you wanting to put it into an older version or emesh?


E-mesh with fixed IP address for gateway
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