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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:25 am    Post subject: r2683 - Stand alone mode Reply with quote

Hi all

Is "dashboard fallback" and "stand alone mode" connected?


Dashboard Fallback

There is now a new option in LWP (local web page)
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dashboard fallback IP (default: checkin.open-mesh.com)


I don't understand what or how this works?

Shasan made this comment:

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Someone else will need to correct this because I may be wrong. Also I think this topic has been discussed previously, so perhaps you can find that somewhere.

I think the problem is that nodes determine if they are gateways by checking to see if they have an IP address on their eth0 port. They may even check for a route to the internet. I believe by disconnecting your upstream network you may run into some issues with that.

Again, I don't have that much experience in this particular area so someone more clueful could provide more details (or let me know if I'm totally off base).


Stand alone mode

To activate stand alone mode it appears that all we need to do is

edit /etc/config/management adding the line:
Code:

option  'stand_alone_mode'  '1'



(remember to uncheck GATEWAY LAN BLOCK if you want access the machines plugged to the LAN thet is behind the patched gateway)


More information on this topic would be good

Thanks

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dashboard fallback IP
this IP address is used in case that the node fails checking the dashboard (nameserver fault).
Checkin reads the fallback IP in this order:
/etc/dashboard.fallback_ip (this file is editable by Local Web Pages)
/etc/dashboard.fallback_ip.default (real_default_value in case the previous one fails)

Both the two files contain the IP address of the open-mesh.com dashboard (66.206.86.150) as default, users can use a simple "custom.sh" file to change the IPs.
note: there is no auto validation on the entered addresses.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stand Alone Mode

allow the mesh to work without internet
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

will the Stand Alone Mode still check in ?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:35 pm    Post subject: hi Reply with quote

please help me my all nodes this problem,
update command run

get node status...
check dashboard...
update: failed checking the dashboard, try dashboard fallback IP.
update: dashboard updated successfully: checkin #549
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

network name?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:26 pm    Post subject: hi Reply with quote

im fix all nodes 66.206.86.150 updates server.maybe this problem cause dns
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:58 am    Post subject: hi Reply with quote

im dashboard settings in Alternate Nameserver IP:8.8.8.8 and save ,nodes update and reboot connect with my notebook but my notebook check my dns address:208.67.222.222 why dont 8.8.8.8
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been tesing "stand alone mode" with no luck.

Has any body got this feature to work?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have added the stand-alone mode in MeshConnect dashboard so you guys can test the feature out.

But frankly, I don't quite understand the concept of stand alone mode. I thought even if the dashboard server goes down, the nodes should still run, correct? If not the case, we then have an issue of how long the dashboard may go offline before the network dies.

Second problem in concept for the stand-alone mode is how to change the nodes back, after entering the stand-alone mode, assuming the nodes no longer checking into the dashboard. On a flip hand, if the nodes actually continue checking into the dashboard even in the stand-alone mode, that seems lead us to square one; in which case we don't need to distinquish the mode.

Can someone help to explain?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is my understanding and could be wrong

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But frankly, I don't quite understand the concept of stand alone mode. I thought even if the dashboard server goes down, the nodes should still run, correct? If not the case, we then have an issue of how long the dashboard may go offline before the network dies.


We had a problem that when a connection to the internet was lost the nodes would somes times lock up. It appeared that to fix this problem Antonio created a reboot script that on internet failure the nodes would reboot (reboot cycle until internet connection). Now If you wanted to run nodes without internet access this would be a problem because the nodes would keep rebooting.

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Second problem in concept for the stand-alone mode is how to change the nodes back, after entering the stand-alone mode, assuming the nodes no longer checking into the dashboard. On a flip hand, if the nodes actually continue checking into the dashboard even in the stand-alone mode, that seems lead us to square one; in which case we don't need to distinquish the mode.


Im not sure why this would be a problem?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Im not sure why this would be a problem?

Thanks for the explanation.

I still wonder whether the statement is true that once a node enters stand-alone mode, there is no way to get it out by changing the setting in dashboard because the node no longer checks in to the dashboard.

Troublesome, isn't it?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still not in sync with your thoughts

My understanding is if you want to run "stand alone mode" with out internet you still need a dashboard but it would be hosted locally (e.g. meshconnect).

If you then connected your network back to the net you could still switch back to the open-mesh dashboard even if "stand alone mode" is still enabled but your nodes might be more prone to locking up

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm... I thought "stand-alone" was to turn off the checking in to a dashboard. I could be wrong. But to a node, I can't think of a difference between going to a local dashboard, say at 192.168.1.121, versus goign to an IP anywhere, from HTTP request perspective. (So the argument comes to what the operation got switched on and off.)

I'm glad we open this discussion. Hopefully we can clarify the puspose of "stand-alone" mode.
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Hmm... I thought "stand-alone" was to turn off the checking in to a dashboard. I could be wrong. But to a node, I can't think of a difference between going to a local dashboard, say at 192.168.1.121, versus goign to an IP anywhere, from HTTP request perspective. (So the argument comes to what the operation got switched on and off.)

I'm glad we open this discussion. Hopefully we can clarify the puspose of "stand-alone" mode.


You could be correct, I don't really know, I just guessing.

I've been using meshconnect in "stand alone" mode and the nodes connect to the meshconnect dashboard.

I plug in a serial cable and the nodes appear to stop rebooting when in "stand alone" mode when not connected to the internet

I could do more tests but it might be easier if Antonio explains................

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